"The Jerome Conspiracy"

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Permalink Reply by Dena Brehm on April 14, 2009 at 9:08pm

LOL to Patrick, and thanks to Aida (& hugs to both)!

It is getting rather repetitive, no? The deal is, folks show up, don't want to read through umpteen pages, and so they chime in with a question or comment that's already been addressed earlier.

While it may seem unkind, I think, for my own sanity and limited time's sake, that I'm going to suggest that anyone who wants to post on this thread further, should please read everything first ... to get the gist of it (even if they only read my responses, to hit the main points), BEFORE I'll engage in any further conversation.

I wish I had more time to meet each one's comments ... the reality is, I just don't. And, I see that things get circular reeeeeeal quick.

So, if'n anyone wants to comment or ask a question, please take the time to read through this thread -- much appreciated!

Shalom, Dena

Permalink Reply by Carolyn on April 15, 2009 at 7:29am

Well everyone, are you enjoying the discussion? Tammie, you have done a good job of sticking to the point and attempting to talk about some simple realities. It isn't always about appearing to be humble. It isn't humble when your words are not really considered to be something worthy of consideration and are dismissed because of "my experience". We know this media seems limited, but words on a page are what God has used to communicate with us using the highliter of the Holy Spirit. He does expand our understanding.

The volume of response that you have generated here points to the fact that you are on to something. I think there is more protest than the questions deserved. What does it say.. "he doth protest too much"?

You can go back and read Dena's discussions on Universal Reconciliation in other places. And her definition of who Jesus is and what he is today. You will find that his nature and being are different than you know him to be and which are not quite consistent with the view of traditional Christianity. I will let her speak for herself rather than try to put my words into what she has "discovered". However, you will find that she has a relationship with a different Jesus than you. I don't know about the other's who hold to this view, but it is not just about what happens ultimately, it is about Jesus.

Dena is on a mission, and is using this site to spread beliefs that are not traditional Christianity. There is a difference between taking back a doctrine that has been used wrongly, and changing the nature of what God has said about himself, the nature of good and evil, the kingdom of heaven, his body the church, and the present state of our Lord Jesus. No one means to be unkind, but this has been done before, since earliest church days. It was called Gnosticism then and was condemned by the apostles.

For this reason, Paul put it quite simply in Galatians.1) the work of Jesus: Gal 1:4 Who gave himself for our sins, that he might deliver us from this present evil world, according to the will of God and our Father: there is a present evil world that exists outside our own soulish mind and outside the will of God. 2) the fact that some will preach another Christ: Gal 1:6-8 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed

To those of us who have exited a tradtional construct of the operation of the body of Christ, we must not be taken in by the desire to "just follow Jesus" by changing the meanings of words, and the nature of the gospel. Paul stood firm by what he had preached that it genuinely was by "revelation of Jesus Christ". Since we have only one Lord, and we each have the relationship with him that does allow for revelation to teach us, it seems that this would be a very trustworthy manner to come to a further knowledge of him. But Paul was clear in many letters, that he would not show his authority to use this revelation experience by the cleverness of the words he used, nor his manner of speech, but it would be by the demonstration of the power of the kingdom of God.

Jesus used this a his proof and his calling card for his identity, and he does the same today. When church left off having power, that which is demonstrated beyond human capability, then it was a clear sign that their gospel had changed. We needed to seek some changes in the truth of the doctrines we had. But, unless there is power in the doctrine that we now preach, unless there is the testimony of the work of God being done in the earth by our Lord Jesus thru the Holy Spirit to put down the works of the devil (Acts 10:38) then we cannot say that God is with us. One may not attempt to destroy his works if they don't believe he exists and they are merely fighting against themselves. We have died, and now live in Christ, and we demonstrate his power to establish the will of God by his kingdom on the earth until he returns..we will do the works he did.. he is coming again.. . and he has not done so yet.

Respectfully, and wishing you all growth in the truth which empowers. Carolyn

Permalink Reply by Tammie on April 15, 2009 at 7:41am

Hi Patrick,

Got any pictures of weasels? That would be more appropriate. Skunks only spread their stink when provoked.

I know you didn't directly address me in your accusations, but I have not said Dena needed to be saved, fixed, or reformed and I have not tried to control her. I have tried to understand and asked her to clarify what she says she believes. One of the accusations from your little rant is true at least, I think she is confused, (though not in danger, I know He is able to keep her, in spite of how hard she makes things for herself) and she could definitely make better choices on sources she uses to schools herself.

Dena has not said she got her doctrine of no demons from hearing God speak it to her. She has said that she believes the things the Bible says about God and Jesus, she believes God inspired at least that part of what is written in the Bible.

My last question to her would have been, why is she accepting the definitions about God from the Hebrews but rather than asking God to speak to her while studying what the Bible says about the Devil, or studying what the Hebrew culture and tradition says about the devil, she studies doctrines modern men have formed about him and argues about translation word choices and cites Roman, Greek and Muslim definitions of their Devil?

And about someone who feels the need to edu-muh-cate... your blogs would fit that designation, no?



Patrick said:

OK, I will be a stinker here....Dena, You need to be saved , fixed, reformed, schooled and controlled better. How dare you listen to the God in your head! Dont you know that man knows better and he wrote it down as such in a book called the bible? You must be confused and wrong and further more a danger with all the XXXXX's behind it. I am going to make a garlic necklace to protect myself and the life blood from being drained from ...( I cant afford silver bullets)...anyways, I am pretty sure that God does not need anyone of us to tell you what He needs to say or have you learn. Churchys just focus too much on what is right and wrong and who is to blame. I choose to just love you...just like Jesus does, just the way you are and He will do the rest. Anyone else here down with that or do they feel the need to edu-muh-cate some more?/
PS. God'sGoats are more fun!!

Permalink Reply by Tammie on April 15, 2009 at 7:46am

Dena, I asked you when I jumped into this conversation to point me to the posts where you've discussed your doctrine of no demons. You did not.

After reading your response to Aida about the repetitiveness of our conversation I spent time I did not have reading this whole thread. I didn't find anything. Maybe it's in another discussion.

I do not think you're being "unkind" in backing out of this conversation by claiming you've already said everything that needs to be said, I think you're being disingenuous. but whatever, I won't bother you to engage in more of your circular conversation. My bad.

Dena Brehm said:

LOL to Patrick, and thanks to Aida (& hugs to both)!

It is getting rather repetitive, no? The deal is, folks show up, don't want to read through umpteen pages, and so they chime in with a question or comment that's already been addressed earlier.

While it may seem unkind, I think, for my own sanity and limited time's sake, that I'm going to suggest that anyone who wants to post on this thread further, should please read everything first ... to get the gist of it (even if they only read my responses, to hit the main points), BEFORE I'll engage in any further conversation.

I wish I had more time to meet each one's comments ... the reality is, I just don't. And, I see that things get circular reeeeeeal quick.

So, if'n anyone wants to comment or ask a question, please take the time to read through this thread -- much appreciated!

Shalom, Dena

Permalink Reply by Dena Brehm on April 15, 2009 at 12:06pm

(((Tammie)))


I've said all I can say, at this point, based on my own journey so far. I've shared openly, from my heart.

I made no claims that I have, much less could possibly share, "everything that needs to be said." ;)

For that, my friend (& I mean that sincerely), you would have to have your very own conversation(s) with God.

I strongly encourage that -- may you, may we all, hear Him.

His richest blessings, His clearest leadings, in your journey with Him..!

Permalink Reply by Dena Brehm on April 15, 2009 at 12:10pm

It was said (of me):

You can go back and read Dena's discussions on Universal Reconciliation in other places. And her definition of who Jesus is and what he is today. You will find that his nature and being are different than you know him to be and which are not quite consistent with the view of traditional Christianity.


YES...! Praise God!!! :)

Permalink Reply by Bill Wood on April 15, 2009 at 3:43pm

Things seem to be coming to a head....

Patrick says:Churchys just focus too much on what is right and wrong and who is to blame. I choose to just love you...just like Jesus does, just the way you are and He will do the rest. Anyone else here down with that or do they feel the need to edu-muh-cate some more?/

Me: Seems to me that Dena's the one trying to edu-muh-cate everyone here. She is by far the most dominating poster here.

Patrick you need to tell Jesus He was wrong in not *really* loving those five churches he rebukes and tells to repent. Doesn't Jesus even say to one of the assemblies that the one's He loves He chastens?

I think it's pretty obvious that there is a gnostic spirit at work here. I know that our warfare ain't against flesh and blood.

And I will be so bold as to say I see a *woman* and her name is Jezebel. She is at the table here at simplechurch. She is seducing and teaching the servants of Christ Jesus to eat food(spiritual) offered to idols(gods of our own making) and to commit fornication(again spiritual).

Permalink Reply by Patrick on April 15, 2009 at 4:50pm

What I see is Fundamental Thumping of traditions upon people in the name of Jesus ((Bill.))
There are two camps that always seem to divide.
Those who care about doctrine and those who care about people.
The tone and attitude above cares nothing for people at all. It is a lie to say otherwise Mr Wood. You know nothing of Dena or her heart for truth and Christ.

Yes, my own personal struggle is with people I don't care for as well, so it is easy to identify someone with the same nature. The difference is that I don't care for those who do it in Jesus name and the bible, as if it give me permission to be errogant, judgemental and controlling. Your accusations are false Bill. It is the same rhetoric from the past. Many come to SC because they know where they were was not of HIM. But many stop there and bring the rest of the traditional dogma of lies with them from within the walls of the church. Many of the doctrines were also steeped in Pagan influences. Why did you stop questioning and bring men's teachings and not those of the Spirit of God????......No need to answer, it is a challenge for you personally. This thread is really for people who actually read the book and a discussion regarding it. Perhaps it should be named the best book I never read....I think pagan christianity already owns that one though.

PS. ((Bill)) which church do you represent that Jesus spoke of in your above post?

I embrace those in search for the truth and reject those who think they own it...

Permalink Reply by David Evans on April 16, 2009 at 4:15am

Aida
I look forward to a continued friendship with Dena and yourself. I find Dena to be very generous, loving, warm, friendly and ready to share what she has with anyone who wants or asks. Like everyone, the time I can devote to online communities is limited but when I can visit Dena's posts are refreshing. Dena's words and attitude refresh me and encourage me to be open honest but also respectful and loving and patient with others. I can tell it would be great fun and fellowship to be in the same room as you two. If we do not get to break bread here then I look forward to that day in New Jerusalem when we shall.


p.s. Dena your post blessed and encourage me. Thanks for the kind words and I agree there is a leaping in the heart that happens when the Spirit recognizes Spirit. I really enjoy your ability to see God in all things and your willingness to share those insights. Be encouraged, keep those insights coming and I know that you will keep loving - even those who misunderstand you, cause you know in the end, Love will win.


Aida said:

David, I just read your comments. It was late yesterday and I was skimming through. Also, as she said, Dena and I are old friends so I mainly focused on what she was saying although I did read a lot of the other comments however somehow I missed yours.

I hope you get to know Dena. She's a joy and a special lady.

Anyway, I went back this morning and read what you wrote and all I can say is WOW!! Thank you for sharing with such wisdom and humility. You have also encouraged me greatly.

Aida

David Evans said:

Dena
Your words remind me of Paul when he said that he was resolved to know only Christ and Him crucified. When have stripped ourselves to our only non negotiable foundation is knowing the Son of God who has reconciled us to God through his death and resurrection, when we have considered all our other knowledge dung as compared to our literal and alive relationship with Jesus then we have what we need.
It seems to me that you will take an alive vibrant relationship with our Lord over a theology degree any day. I think you and Paul have some similar thoughts.
I do not have to worry what you believe about demons, or hell or baptism or womens ministries.... you know the author of all knowledge and in His good timing He will tell and teach you what you need. I do hope to encourage you, as you encourage me, to continue to follow him until he has filled you up with all good things, and to encourage you to love others as he has loved you. I appreciate you sharing the things you have experienced and the humble way that you share what you have learned so far. If something you share does not fit me I do not worry about changing you or me. My master will make sure whether I stand or fall (and just like you he will make sure that I stand). The "rest" of the Lord is a good place. entering into His sabbath rest and ceasing from my works.

Got a cheesy but useful illustration today. We all like cake but drinking oil, or eating raw eggs or snorting two cups of flour would not be much fun. Taken singular or in the abstract many of the things we learn or go through are not that pleasant or make much sense, but when put together by the Lord all of those ingredients make something very pleasant.
All that just to say that even my wrong turns in doctrine have been part of making my relationship with the Lord stronger.

When Jesus told the disciples to eat his flesh and drink his blood I am sure they were more than a little confused but its not about the confusion. The answer was not that they understood the doctrine but that they had no where else to go because Jesus gave them life.

Thank you for your singualr devotion to our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and the encouragment I recieve by your example of counting everything else as loss for the sake of the what is far more valuable, knowing the Messiah Jesus, my Lord. It is because of him that you have experienced the loss of all those things. Indeed, You consider them rubbish in order to gain the Messiah

Dena Brehm said:

There is no way to put into this incredibly-limited medium which is the written word, what I have learned, experienced and come to believe, due to how I've been following God, as He leads, over the past 5+ years (when I began to be come aware of how He was leading me).

Here's my summary, as best I can offer it, even knowing that it will be misunderstood and used against me. So be it. :)

- I believe in one God, manifested most obviously in the Trinity (I see evidence and demonstration of the Triune nature of truth all over the universe/creation).

- I believe in Jesus, the Son of God, who was the Christ, the anointed One, the long-foretold Messiah, who was ever-so from before time began. I believe He is The Way, The Truth and The Life. It was through Him that the world was reconciled to God.

- I believe that God inspired the writers of the Bible, and that it is His message to us. I love, read, study and implement the Bible into my life. I do not, however, see it as inerrant, infallible, or any other words that humankind have put *upon* the Bible. I trust God to speak to me, His Beloved, in any way He chooses, including using the Bible to do so.

- I do not believe that Jesus set up Christianity. I do not believe it was His intention to develop another religion, but that He draws all mankind to Himself, not to live the "Christian life" (something entirely of our making), but to live the Abundant Life, which has nothing to do with any religion.

- I follow Jesus, who is alive and leading, in a relationship that has nothing to do with any declarations of man (though some may contain some truth). I have an ongoing, first-hand experience with Him, not a second-hand vicarious experience based on the lives of others.

- I experience Jesus, by His Spirit, leading me (& everyone, as we allow, as we are open) into all truth. He speaks to me internally, where spirit and Spirit intersect, and shows me whatever truth He has for me, using all resources available to Him, for all truth is His truth -- He is the only Source of Truth.

That's what I'm believing and experiencing today ... subject to His continual tweaking.

Shalom, Dena

Permalink Reply by Aida on April 16, 2009 at 7:20am

Hi David. I look forward to getting to know you better too. I’ve known Dena for several years and I agree with your assessment of her. She really is a very caring, loving person. Also very enthusiastic which is why I believe she’s experienced a lot of misunderstanding here.

I like everyone I’ve met on this site. Although I know I don’t agree theologically with most who are here, I’ve met some really neat people. I think it’s healthy to be around people who understand this life of grace somewhat differently than I do. That’s how we learn and we grow, by each of us sharing our understanding of our portion of truth.

I appreciate your kind words and I consider you to be among the neat people I’ve met here.

Aida

David Evans said:

Aida
I look forward to a continued friendship with Dena and yourself. I find Dena to be very generous, loving, warm, friendly and ready to share what she has with anyone who wants or asks. Like everyone, the time I can devote to online communities is limited but when I can visit Dena's posts are refreshing. Dena's words and attitude refresh me and encourage me to be open honest but also respectful and loving and patient with others. I can tell it would be great fun and fellowship to be in the same room as you two. If we do not get to break bread here then I look forward to that day in New Jerusalem when we shall.


p.s. Dena your post blessed and encourage me. Thanks for the kind words and I agree there is a leaping in the heart that happens when the Spirit recognizes Spirit. I really enjoy your ability to see God in all things and your willingness to share those insights. Be encouraged, keep those insights coming and I know that you will keep loving - even those who misunderstand you, cause you know in the end, Love will win.


Aida said:

David, I just read your comments. It was late yesterday and I was skimming through. Also, as she said, Dena and I are old friends so I mainly focused on what she was saying although I did read a lot of the other comments however somehow I missed yours.

I hope you get to know Dena. She's a joy and a special lady.

Anyway, I went back this morning and read what you wrote and all I can say is WOW!! Thank you for sharing with such wisdom and humility. You have also encouraged me greatly.

Aida

David Evans said:

Dena
Your words remind me of Paul when he said that he was resolved to know only Christ and Him crucified. When have stripped ourselves to our only non negotiable foundation is knowing the Son of God who has reconciled us to God through his death and resurrection, when we have considered all our other knowledge dung as compared to our literal and alive relationship with Jesus then we have what we need.
It seems to me that you will take an alive vibrant relationship with our Lord over a theology degree any day. I think you and Paul have some similar thoughts.
I do not have to worry what you believe about demons, or hell or baptism or womens ministries.... you know the author of all knowledge and in His good timing He will tell and teach you what you need. I do hope to encourage you, as you encourage me, to continue to follow him until he has filled you up with all good things, and to encourage you to love others as he has loved you. I appreciate you sharing the things you have experienced and the humble way that you share what you have learned so far. If something you share does not fit me I do not worry about changing you or me. My master will make sure whether I stand or fall (and just like you he will make sure that I stand). The "rest" of the Lord is a good place. entering into His sabbath rest and ceasing from my works.

Got a cheesy but useful illustration today. We all like cake but drinking oil, or eating raw eggs or snorting two cups of flour would not be much fun. Taken singular or in the abstract many of the things we learn or go through are not that pleasant or make much sense, but when put together by the Lord all of those ingredients make something very pleasant.
All that just to say that even my wrong turns in doctrine have been part of making my relationship with the Lord stronger.

When Jesus told the disciples to eat his flesh and drink his blood I am sure they were more than a little confused but its not about the confusion. The answer was not that they understood the doctrine but that they had no where else to go because Jesus gave them life.

Thank you for your singualr devotion to our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and the encouragment I recieve by your example of counting everything else as loss for the sake of the what is far more valuable, knowing the Messiah Jesus, my Lord. It is because of him that you have experienced the loss of all those things. Indeed, You consider them rubbish in order to gain the Messiah

Dena Brehm said:

There is no way to put into this incredibly-limited medium which is the written word, what I have learned, experienced and come to believe, due to how I've been following God, as He leads, over the past 5+ years (when I began to be come aware of how He was leading me).

Here's my summary, as best I can offer it, even knowing that it will be misunderstood and used against me. So be it. :)

- I believe in one God, manifested most obviously in the Trinity (I see evidence and demonstration of the Triune nature of truth all over the universe/creation).

- I believe in Jesus, the Son of God, who was the Christ, the anointed One, the long-foretold Messiah, who was ever-so from before time began. I believe He is The Way, The Truth and The Life. It was through Him that the world was reconciled to God.

- I believe that God inspired the writers of the Bible, and that it is His message to us. I love, read, study and implement the Bible into my life. I do not, however, see it as inerrant, infallible, or any other words that humankind have put *upon* the Bible. I trust God to speak to me, His Beloved, in any way He chooses, including using the Bible to do so.

- I do not believe that Jesus set up Christianity. I do not believe it was His intention to develop another religion, but that He draws all mankind to Himself, not to live the "Christian life" (something entirely of our making), but to live the Abundant Life, which has nothing to do with any religion.

- I follow Jesus, who is alive and leading, in a relationship that has nothing to do with any declarations of man (though some may contain some truth). I have an ongoing, first-hand experience with Him, not a second-hand vicarious experience based on the lives of others.

- I experience Jesus, by His Spirit, leading me (& everyone, as we allow, as we are open) into all truth. He speaks to me internally, where spirit and Spirit intersect, and shows me whatever truth He has for me, using all resources available to Him, for all truth is His truth -- He is the only Source of Truth.

That's what I'm believing and experiencing today ... subject to His continual tweaking.

Shalom, Dena

Permalink Reply by Dena Brehm on April 16, 2009 at 9:48am

I was urged to come get on the computer, and read this thread, prior to heading out for my routine morning walk ... it's not like me to go against my routine, but the urge was strong. I also had something burning in me to share here.

It's with delight that I find your amazing words of encouragement, both David and Aida. Bless you, and thank you for honoring the urges you felt in your own hearts.

I'm also delighted, oddly enough, to have read the words of both Carolyn and Bill ... I had sensed for some time now that they were denying their own true feelings, about me, about what and how I share, and now they were feeling free to be more honest with me. I find that refreshing, even if I experience initial discomfort in the onslaught. Jesus meets us where we are, He always has ... He never meets us where we think we're *supposed* to be. It's truly good when the veneer (even a "kind" veneer) falls away, and people get authentic. So I see it all as good.

Now, I'd like to share that which is burning in me, so that I can get it out, and get on with my walk, LOL!

I set out to find God at an early age ... and I did find Him, for when we come to Him as a little child, our defenses are down, we are open and vulnerable, and we find Him. And then, religion (specifically Christianity) got in the way ... it redefined the God I had experienced as a child, and told me the parameters for how, when, and where, I could now connect with Him ... only, He became oh-so-distant. And in that despair, I lost my first love, and I went down a dark and shadowy path, seemingly away from Him (only I've learned that He never leaves me nor forsakes me ... that I can go nowhere, not even Sheol, the place of the dead-living, where He is not ...and that He never abandoned me, nor did He stop speaking to me ... I just forgot a lot, and denied a lot, and thus experienced a void of my own making).

In the midst of that religious-Christian experience, which crumbled all around me, I cried out to Him, "I want to know You, I want Your truth, at all cost -- show me what's of man, and what's of You -- I won't settle for less." An amazing prayer, and I had no clue what I was asking for. I urge both high caution and extreme encouragement in praying that prayer...! For you will never be the same ... nothing will ever be the same...!

What I've discovered, in this journey since that moment (which includes everything prior to that moment, for there is no illusion of time for God, and nothing is wasted), is that I had to be willing to really know God -- not simply to know what I *thought* I knew about Him. My beliefs about Him made it impossible to know Him as He really is ... all the misaligned belief in the world couldn't work. It only kept me continuing to know what I thought I knew, instead of what really is.

I had to be willing to suspend what I imagined I already knew about God, in order to know God as I'd never imagined...

It's been a long and painful process, and I've vascilated between daring leaps and cowering depths. But I've come to embrace a God who loves and embraces me, without condition. I've welcomed into my life a God who welcoms me into the kingdom, no questions asked ... and I've stopped punishing myself for acknowledging a God who will not punish me, and I've come to talk with a God who never stopped talking to me.

Yes, these are radical notions. And yes, many call this heresy. The irony is that I've had to abandon religion, even Christianity, in order to truly know God. I've had to abandon many of Christianity's teachings, for they kept me from God. And yet, I've never, ever abandoned Christ, for how could I? Every breath I breathe is the breath of Christ (it is the same for each of you).

I've come to believe that in order to truly know God, we have to be "out of our minds".

Here's what I hear God saying to me, Spirit-to-spirit: "Come to Me, through the path of your heart, not through a journey of your mind. You won't find Me through your mind. You won't find me if you try to think your way to Me... for your mind holds all your previous notions about God. Yet the truth about Me will not be found in the previous ideas you hold so dear, but in your present moment experience with Me, here and now. I am the I am, not the I Was, nor the I Will Be."

(the divine dichotomy is that in this process, my mind is renewed, in the the process of merging with the Mind of Christ, and thus I can better use my mind, love Him with my mind.)

Now, a funny thing happened on the way to knowing God (& this journey ever-continues ... there is no "arriving" ... and I am not a teacher ... I am merely one who shares outloud, as I go). En route toward more of knowing God, and knowing God more, I found Oneness. This shouldn't surprise me, for Jesus prayed for this very thing, and how often does God not answer God's prayer...? But I had not experienced this Oneness (with Him, with all others) until recently. It's quite startling, really. And I got here through what appeared to be adversity (not the first time God used "satan" as a tool...!).

The irony of this Oneness is that I no longer have a need for anyone to believe anything I say. Who am I? In fact, I'd rather folks tune in to their own hearts, the intersection of Spirit-and-spirit, and find their own truths (for all truth is God's Truth). I'd rather folks do their own search, their own asking, their own knocking ... to discover their own wisdom and to have their own experiential encounter with the Living God, here and now.

If anything I ever share leads someone to do that, causes them to question how they've been believing/thinking/reacting, and inspires them into an exploration of deeper truth, then sharing myself here (there, and everywhere, LOL!), and even opening myself up to criticism, is SO very well worth it...!

It's not that I, in and of myself, am so special - we're ALL special. We're all One, in ways we cannot fathom. And we're One with God, in ways that sound blasphemous to our religious ears.

I no longer fear God, and that is changing my life. I no longer fear any of you, and that has freed me to love you, as you are... no matter what you say or do to me, no matter what you think of me.

I won't divide from any of you either -- though that's impossible. Separation would only be a painful delusion.

I'm responding to an "internal guidance system," operated by the Spirit, which draws me not only more into Him, but more towards each one of you.

So I can say I love you, and mean it, even in the midst of what appears to be conflict. The Oneness is more real than the illusion of the conflict. We just get confused, we just ignore the Voice of the One within. And we are all forgiven, for we truly don't know what we are doing. Until we do. When we know better, when we know who He really is, and therefore who we really are, we do better.

If you read this, thank you. If it doesn't resonate for you, freely dismiss it. If it draws you to Him, to each other, go with it.

I'm off to enjoy my walk in this once-in-a-lifetime gift of a day He's given me...!

Shalom, Dena

Permalink Reply by Patrick on April 16, 2009 at 10:33am

I hope to attain the same peace some day among those who choose and feel the need to be nasty. I am not there yet, l am humbled by your post. You see the true feelings coming out as a blessing and I saw them as wolves in sheeps clothing lying all along until someone fired them up. I do pray that their bonds be released. I also love how you were able to seperate the intellectual from the heart. I am still at the " how can you not see this" stage towards others.
That is still intellectual property and no different than fundamentalism.
Anything added to Christ alone truly does divide!
Doctrine and church theology truly have done that.

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