Phoenix-Metro Community Church

Comment by mike brooks on January 10, 2011 at 3:42pm

hi all

i think this 15 point thesis regarding house churches and institutional is great - and pretty much nails down where we've arrived at

hope you enjoy the read

peace

mike

http://www.housechurch.org/basics/simson_15.html

Comment by mike brooks on January 10, 2011 at 3:49pm

hi all

you can check out our facebook link here:

peace

mike

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Phoenix-Metro/236836497122

Comment by mike brooks on January 10, 2011 at 7:29pm

hey pam

thanks for joining

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Comment by mike brooks on January 11, 2011 at 5:15pm

greeting all

please pass this site along

it's another way of making folks in the area aware of us

also - folks anywhere

i se that pete and thelma in florida have joined us

virtual church too eh?

peace

mike

Comment by Nickolas Hiemstra on January 11, 2011 at 5:27pm

Mike, I guess you started an avalanche of people from Michigan joining simplechurch. Good job . . . and thank you.

Comment by mike brooks on January 11, 2011 at 6:50pm

hi all

this is worth a look

ebony sent it to me

it is of course - fundamentally flawed - but has some good points regarding black and white thinknig

and as I am always on the lookout for useful material for future dialogs - this is a great find - it's important for us to hear what those who do not believe in God - say regarding their constructs

peace

mike

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNDZb0KtJDk

Comment by Nickolas Hiemstra on January 11, 2011 at 7:33pm

Interesing video but I think they are trying to "think" it out too much, and complicating the whole thing. I don't feel it is MY responsibility to "prove" the existence of "God." As Paul said, "The evidence surrounds you."

 

A perfect example is with my friend Rob. He used to refer to himself as an atheist. He believed what you see, is what you get. Over a couple of years working together and becoming good friends and some excellent conversations, he eventually began referring to himself as an agnostic . . . he was will to accept that there was  a "God" of some type, but he wasn't "knowable."

 

At our twins' graduation, he pulled me aside (and still holding to his agnostic views) asked me to pray for one of his students who was always being picked-on (my friend is a special-ed teacher). He said, "I can't explain it, but I've known you for quite awhile and I have seen something different about you and your family . . . I think you really know this God you told me about . . . and I want _________ (and he told me the student's name) to get a fighting chance with all the bullies . . . and I think your God can help him . . ."

 

I've never considered evaluating his views regarding the existence of God, nor have I argued with him about it. I was simply his friend . . . the rest is up to the Holy Spirit.

Comment by Nickolas Hiemstra on January 11, 2011 at 7:34pm

I guess my problem with the video is that they are complicating the issue of faith.

Comment by mike brooks on January 11, 2011 at 7:47pm

thanks for the stroy nickolas

i think it is worth looking at - the video - but as you say - there is probably an element of overcomplicating the issue - faith cannot be reasoned into or out of existence - glad you were there for your friend

Comment by mike brooks on January 11, 2011 at 7:52pm

hi all

i think this 15 point thesis regarding house churches and institutional mindsets is great - and pretty much nails down where we've arrived at - this site - and the existence of so many seeking after a simple church expression is evidence of such

hope you enjoy the read

peace

mike

http://www.housechurch.org/basics/simson_15.html

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