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"I was just reading a little more about this yesterday. The writer suggested "old man" was a better literal translation. I need to do a whole New Covenant search to understand more fully, though. Thanks for the suggestions. "

"Hey whoa!    I don't remember any kids referring to older sibs as elders or even elder brothers when I was growing up.  Why not use big brothers or even older brothers instead?  You could use big brothers in v.1 of I Peter 5…"

"I agree. Thanks for the conversation. I am helped by thinking things through again."

"Dave, I completely agree with you. I am against obligated, religious tithing, too. I am suggesting that what you are referring to is step one of this thought process. (And is already a very controversial stand against the current of the modern…"

"Dave, Since the grace of giving is the substitution for the tithe, I think that you have to end up with collections for the poor. The two are inseparable, if you want to understand the grace of giving correctly. If they were to take a collection,…"

"Dave, Try studying about collections for the poor in the New Testament. You will find about 8 sections of scripture, the largest of which is 2 Cor. 8-9 that talk about giving by grace FOR THE PURPOSE of helping the poor believers in Jerusalem.…"

"Hey whoa! Your identification of tribes with factionalism has not been proven by you and is not contained in the Text.  Paul was well aware of tribes – and not just the Hebrew tribes – but does not even mention them when the topic…"

"Thanks for the instruction, gentlemen. I have many questions about these people who had some additional responsibility in the fellowships within a city. Is this meant to imply something about the nature of the job? “(but if a man does not know…"

""tribe" invites both ambiguity and a distinction for us, as the use of tribe springs from the plural (a tribe among other tribes). Where tribe appears in the New Testament writings, referring among 12 tribes of Israel. A general use of the…"

"Why not "tribe", you ask? Simply because it implies belonging to a "head" that is someone other than Jesus. This is the, "I am of Paul, I am of Apollos or I am of Cephas" issue. It is clearly the start of tribal…"

"Hey whoa!  I don’t really think tribe is all that self-deprecating.  According to the Free Dictionary (online):  tribe (tr b) n. 1. A unit of sociopolitical organization consisting of a number of families, clans, or other groups…"

"And even if the exact word is found, how would I then convince people to use it? My kids still say '”going to church” sometimes. I have to play dumb and act like I don’t know what they are talking about. They correct…"

"Hey whoa!   Again:  Why not tribe?   Much is made of the tribes of the fleshly shadow of the True Israel.  Is there no instruction there?  Or just none we’ve figured out yet?  If you can have a diversity of…"

"Ultimately, I believe God to answer my questions about the 1st Century fellowship – at least the ones that I am asking about how best to meet, worship and edify as He would have it. Of course so many questions have been answered. An overseer,…"

"Claude, was there anything else you noticed? I am asking in sincerity."

""a chosen generation; a royal priesthood; a holy nation; a peculiar people": The Family of God. Not tribal: tribal was amid older covenant. elders are "olders" in the ekklesia, and as many of them demonstrating qualification may…"