Carolyn

Clear Differences between Mormonism and Christianity.


The Error of Mormonism
By Tal Davis

"But they use words just like ours: gospel, savior, atonement, virgin birth. In fact, don't they also baptize by immersion, send out missionaries, and talk about the gospel? It seems that their view of salvation is just like Baptists and other evangelicals! Isn't that the case?"

~ This is often the response to Mormonism and the practices of the Mormon church. On the surface, much of what Mormons do seems similar to Bible-based Christian denominations. What they believe, however, is not at all in correspondence to the Bible. Nowhere is this fact more evident than when the question "What must I do to be saved?" is asked. The Bible gives a very clear and simple answer to that inquiry: "Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved" (Acts 16:31). This answer is one that most believers would affirm and support. The Baptist Faith and Message states simply: "Salvation . . . is offered freely to all who accept Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior, who by His own blood obtained eternal redemption for the believer."1 It is acquired when the sinner responds in repentance toward God and faith in the Lord Jesus Christ. Nothing less and nothing more is required.

~ Let's break that concept down into four parts: First, salvation is of God-the one and only God of this and all other possible universes. He is uncreated, without a beginning, and by whom all things are created. He loved the world and sent His son, God the Word, to die for our sins (see John 3:16 and 2 Cor. 5:18-19).

~ Jesus Christ was conceived by the Holy Spirit in the Virgin Mary. He was born, lived a sinless life, was crucified for the sins of the world, and was raised victorious on the third day.

~ Second, the biblical and Christian concept of Jesus is that He existed eternally in heaven as God the Word. He is uncreated as the second person of the Triune God. There is no biblical material to substantiate, neither have Christians ever believed, that He was born a spirit child to "Heavenly Father" in a preexistent realm as the Mormons teach. He is not our nor Lucifer's "elder brother."

~ Third, because humankind is sinful and fallen, all of us stand in need of the saving grace of Jesus Christ for all of our sins and not just Adam's original sin. God's forgiveness and transforming power are available to all who put their trust in Christ (see John 1:11-13; John 3:16-36).

~ Fourth, we must individually receive Jesus Christ as Savior and Lord, as we repent of all sin. John 1:12 states, "But as many as received him, to them he gave the power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name." Works, denominational identity, or good intentions have nothing to do with one's saving relationship with God through Jesus Christ. Faith, trust, and belief in Jesus' saving death on the cross when He took the sins of the world on Himself and suffered for them, is the only basis for redemption (see 1 John 5:13; Gal. 2:16; Eph. 2:8-9).

~ How does Mormonism compare with the above plan? It is quite different and involves for the fullest sense of salvation at least twelve steps for the male member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Mormons believe that everyone will experience salvation in some way. While the Bible affirms only the presence of heaven or hell, Mormonism maintains that there is perdition, or hell, which is reserved for murderers, apostates from The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, and the Devil and his angels.

Mormon theology also maintains the existence of three heavens, all of them superior to this life-the celestial, terrestrial, and telestial kingdoms. The celestial kingdom is of the highest order where the Mormon will achieve exaltation or godhood.2

~ The following steps explain the Mormon's plan to acquire the celestial kingdom. The celestial kingdom is, for the Mormon, what they call "eternal life."

Step One: Faith

~ The Mormon faith is different from biblical faith because it has a different Jesus. As described above, The Jesus of Mormonism is our spiritual brother from heaven, who, like us, was born a spirit child of God. He is the first born child of the Heavenly Father. Bruce R. McConkie, a Mormon theologian, warned that people who speak of a "special relationship with [this] Christ" are guilty of "excessive zeal" and "pure sectarian nonsense."3 Faith for the Mormon is never spoken of as directed towards the deity of Christ and His full atonement on the cross for the sins of the world. Rather faith is seen as a response to whatever Christ commands, not as a trust in His complete ability to save.4 This kind of faith never results in a personal relationship with Him.

Step Two: Repentance

~ The Bible makes clear that repentance for salvation is always from sin or sins and toward God. For the Mormon repentance involves confessing and abandoning sin as well as restoring or resolving all damage done by one's sin. This definition sounds biblical. But the further condition is added that the repentant person must "spend the balance of your lives trying to live the commandments of the Lord so he can eventually pardon you and cleanse you."5 Repentance is a work, and only a prelude to the process of acquiring salvation by obedience to The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Little, if anything, is said of repentance leading to Jesus Christ. If that is the Mormon understanding of repentance, then it is clear why the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints goes on to add the steps listed below.

Step Three: Baptism by Immersion in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints

~ It is here where the clear stamp of Mormonism is unmistakable. The Mormon Church claims to be the only true Church thus all other Churches and their practices and forms of baptism are false. Baptism by immersion through a "duly commissioned servant or representative of the Savior" (a Melchizedek priesthood holder or a priest in the Aaronic priesthood) is required.6 Therefore this baptism must take place in the Mormon Church and is "the gateway through which we enter the celestial kingdom."7

Step Four: Laying on of Hands by a Member of the Melchizedek Priesthood in Order to Receive the Holy Ghost

~ The presence of the Holy Spirit is not promised for the Mormon as a result of faith and belief. It comes instead mechanically when a baptized Mormon is prayed for by a member of that priestly class in the Church: "The authority to bestow the Holy Ghost belongs to the Melchizedek Priesthood . . . the elder . . . says 'Receive the Holy Ghost,' and 'I confirm you a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.'"8

Step Five: Ordination as a Melchizedek Priest (for males only)

~ When one receives the laying on of hands by a priest of this order, then exaltation and salvation becomes possible in that one also becomes a priest in the same order: "This higher priesthood is designed to enable men to gain exaltation in the highest heaven in eternity . . . Perfection can be gained only in and through and because of their priesthood."9 As well, Mormons believe the Holy Ghost will come to a person only when he is faithful and desires help from this Church official.10

Step Six: Receiving the Temple Endowments

~ Upon ordination to the priesthood, the designated person is then led through a ceremony of anointing and other similar rites-none of which have biblical sanction. Women may also receive these rites. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints maintains, however, that "through them [the rituals] the recipients are endowed with power from on high. They receive an education relative to the Lord's purposes and plans . . . and are taught the things that must be done by man in order to gain exaltation in the world to come."11 The approximately 106 temples of the Mormon Church serve as the only place where these rites can be carried out and are therefore viewed as sacred by Mormons themselves.12

Step Seven: Celestial Marriage

~ Doctrine and Covenants, part of Mormon canonized scripture, states that "celestial marriage is the gate to an exaltation in the highest heaven within the celestial world."13 As a part of temple endowments these members of the Mormon Church are married for "time and eternity" to their spouses in a Mormon temple. Such marriages are essential so that once worthy Mormons are resurrected and possibly progress to godhood they may have their spouse with them to produce and procreate children for their world and universe.

Step Eight: Observing the Word of Wisdom

~ Joseph Smith taught that the use of strong drinks- alcoholic beverages-or hot drinks-referring probably to coffee and tea, both containing caffeine-would demonstrate unworthiness for exaltation.14 The Church also teaches, "For observing the word of wisdom the reward is life, not only prolonged mortal life, but life eternal."15 As well, without obedience to the Word of Wisdom, entrance to Mormon temples will not be granted. Without that allowance, a Mormon would not be able to enter the celestial kingdom.

Step Nine: Sustain the Prophet

~ As each Prophet/President of the Church is believed to be the sole revelator and representative of God to his Church, it is required of every worthy Mormon to support or sustain him as a prophet, seer, and revelator. "To reject the word of the Lord [the message of the Prophet] is to reject the Lord himself," and hence to be unworthy of the celestial kingdom.16

Step Ten: Tithing

~ "One tenth of the interest or increase of each member of the Church is payable as tithing funds of the Church each year."17 And-"payment of an honest tithing is essential to the attainment of those great blessings which the Lord has in store for his faithful saints. Members of the Church who fail or neglect to pay an honest tithing are thereby denying themselves of the receipt of these rich blessings."18 Doctrine and Covenants is even more explicit saying, "For he that is tithed shall not be burned at his coming."19 In other words, tithing is a part of the plan of salvation to escape censor at the second-coming of Christ.

Step Eleven: Sacrament Meetings

~ A sacrament meeting is the weekly Sunday gathering of local Latter-day Saints when they meet to sing, testify, and share the sacrament of bread and water. To participate regularly in this occasion is essential for staying in the close fellowship of the Church. It serves as the basis for renewing one's covenant vows begun at baptism: "By partaking of the sacrament, worthy saints renew the covenant previously made by them in the water of baptism."20 By keeping the covenant in the observance of the sacraments, the Mormon believes that "we will always have the Lord's spirit to be with us and that by following this pattern, believing on his name, we will gain a remission of our sins."21

Step Twelve: Obedience

~ Obedience to the Church, its teachings, and the prophet is essential for the Mormon to gain exaltation in the Celestial Kingdom. Obedience is the first law of heaven, the cornerstone upon which all righteousness and progression rest. Remember that perdition or hell is reserved for apostates-those who leave the Mormon Church and resign their membership in it. There is no salvation apart from total obedience of all laws and ordinances of the Church.22

~ Outer darkness is reserved for apostate members of the Mormon Church. There will be no salvation of forgiveness for these "sons of perdition" who "will suffer the wrath of God and partake of the second death."23

Conclusion:

~ The plan of salvation according to the "gospel" of Mormonism is not just a gospel of works-it is a gospel of obedience and obligation to The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. In Gospel Principles, an official publication of that Church, a parable describing the Mormon plan of salvation is told. A debtor begs his creditor for mercy as his debts are large and long overdue. Just as the cruel creditor is about to cast the man in prison a friend intervenes and pays the debt. He then says to the debtor, "You will pay the debt to me and I will set the terms. It will not be easy, but it will be possible."24 The friend who intervened, not with a free gift, but with a loan to be repaid, is symbolic of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Each devout saint therefore is now working hard to pay off his or her debt to the Church. The Mormon gospel (good news) is no gospel. It is not the gospel of freedom through Christ, it is a gospel of servitude and obligation to a religious organization.

~ In Matthew 18:21-35, however, Jesus told the story of a certain king who forgave his servants their debts to him. One of the servants turned afterwards and demanded payment from a fellow servant of a hundred denarii debt. Unable to pay, the second servant was thrown into prison. Jesus illustrated the point that we should forgive one another just as God has forgiven us, those who believe in Him, from all our transgressions against God's law. This thought echoes the teaching of the Lord's prayer-"Forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors" (Matt. 6:12).

~ The biblical gospel of Jesus Christ is that no debts remain to be paid. Jesus Christ suffered for our sins sufficiently on the cross so that each one who believes in Him may be forgiven of all wrongs-past, present, and future. If you have yet to receive His gift of eternal life, you may do so by believing that God loves you in spite of your sin, that Jesus suffered and paid the cost of your sin, and that salvation is His free gift to you. As the Bible says "with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation" (Rom. 10:10). If that is the need of your life, pray this prayer:

~ Lord Jesus, I believe that you died for all of my sin. I believe God raised you from the dead. Right now I turn from myself and my sins to you. Come into my heart. I give myself to you. Please become the Lord of my life. Thank you for saving me. Amen.

Notes:

1 The Baptist Faith and Message (Nashville: LifeWay Christian Resources, 2000). p.11.

2 See the Interfaith Evangelism publication "A Closer Look at the Mormon Concept of God" for more information on the Mormon concept of God.

3 "Who Answers Prayers?" Sunstone Review (April 1982), 13.

4 See Gospel Principles (Salt Lake City: The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, 1995), pp. 117-121 for more information.

5 Ibid., p. 126.

6 James E. Talmage, The Articles of Faith (Salt Lake City: Deseret Press, 1976), p. 137.

7 Gospel Principles, p. 131.

8 Talmage, Articles of Faith, p. 167.

9 Bruce McConkie, Mormon Doctrine (Salt Lake City: Bookcraft, 1966), p. 167.

10 Gospel Principles, p. 139.

11 McConkie, Mormon Doctrine, p. 227.

12 Ibid.

13 Doctrine and Covenants (Salt Lake City: The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, 1986), 132:34-40,61-62.

14 Ibid., p. 89.

15 Gospel Principles, p. 195.

16 McConkie, Mormon Doctrine, p. 150.

17 Ibid., p. 796.

18 Ibid., p. 798.

19 Doctrine and Covenants, 64:23.

20 McConkie, Mormon Doctrine, p. 660.

21 Gospel Principles, p. 155.

22 McConkie, Mormon Doctrine, p. 539.

23Doctrines of the Gospel, Student Manual, (Salt Lake City: The Church of Jesus Christ Of Latter Day Saints, 1986), p. 91 and Doctrine and Covenants 76:31-48.

24 Gospel Principles, p. 77.

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Bill Wood Comment by Bill Wood on February 23, 2010 at 4:14pm
First of all I want to say to you Connie that I am not here to personally attack you. However, I do believe that some of the doctrines of the LDS church are a total affront to Christ Jesus and what He brought. They undermine His Pre-eminence.

In Rev. chapter 1 verse 5&6 we have these words which are written in Heaven and cannot be revoked. "to Him Who loves us and has washed us from our sins by His blood, and has made us kings and priests to His God, even His Father."

Those that are IN Christ Jesus participate with HIS Life. In 1Cor.1:9 we are told, "Faithful is God Who has divinely summoned us into joint-participation with His Son."

And if we participate with Him in His Life we also participate with Him in His priesthood which is after the order of Melchizedek, He being High Priest. And like-wise we share in His Kingship, He being King of kings.

Below is a portion of an article in Wilipedia concerning Joseph Smith's having the Levitical priesthood concurred on him and another fella.



Restoration of the Aaronic Priesthood
The conferral of the Aaronic Priesthood on Joseph Smith and Oliver Cowdery occurred May 15, 1829 in Harmony, Pennsylvania (now Oakland, PA), and is recorded in Joseph Smith - History as follows:

"[W]e. . . went into the woods to pray and inquire of the Lord respecting baptism for the remission of sins, that we found mentioned in the translation of the plates, The Book of Mormon. . . . While we were thus employed, praying and calling upon the Lord, a messenger from heaven descended in a cloud of light, and having laid his hands upon us, he ordained us, saying:
"Upon you my fellow servants, in the name of Messiah, I confer the Priesthood of Aaron, which holds the keys of the ministering of angels, and of the gospel of repentance, and of baptism by immersion for the remission of sins; and this shall never be taken again from the earth until the sons of Levi do offer again an offering unto the Lord in righteousness.
"He said this Aaronic Priesthood had not the power of laying on hands for the gift of the Holy Ghost, but that this should be conferred on us hereafter; and he commanded us to go and be baptized, and gave us directions that I should baptize Oliver Cowdery, and that afterwards he should baptize me.
"Accordingly we went and were baptized. . . .
"The messenger who visited us on this occasion and conferred this Priesthood upon us, said that his name was John, the same that is called John the Baptist in the New Testament, and that he acted under the direction of Peter, James and John, who held the keys of the Priesthood of Melchizedek, which Priesthood, he said, would in due time be conferred on us, and that I should be called the first Elder of the Church, and he (Oliver Cowdery) the second. . . .
"Immediately on our coming up out of the water after we had been baptized, we experienced great and glorious blessings from our Heavenly Father. No sooner had I baptized Oliver Cowdery, than the Holy Ghost fell upon him, and he stood up and prophesied many things which should shortly come to pass. And again, so soon as I had been baptized by him, I also had the spirit of prophecy, when, standing up, I prophesied concerning the rise of this Church, and many other things connected with the Church, and this generation of the children of men. We were filled with the Holy Ghost, and rejoiced in the God of our salvation."
Restoration of the Melchizedek Priesthood
Unlike the restoration of the Aaronic priesthood, Smith never gave a description of vision in which he saw an angel confer the Melchizedek priesthood. However, by the turn of the 20th century, Latter Day Saint theologians were convinced that such a conferral had occurred prior to the organization of the Church of Christ on April 6, 1830.[13] This was largely because the early church organization contained the office of elder, which by 1835 was considered an office of the Melchizedek priesthood. As evidence for such a pre-organization angellic conferral, writers referred to a revelation in which Smith said he heard "The voice of Peter, James, and John in the wilderness between Harmony, Susquehanna county, and Colesville, Broome county, on the Susquehanna river, declaring themselves as possessing the keys of the kingdom, and of the dispensation of the fulness of times!"[14] Thus, most Mormons believe that Smith and Cowdery were visited by the three angels and that they conferred the Melchizedek priesthood in the same way John the Baptist had conferred the Aaronic priesthood.

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I don't know about the rest of y'all but I would venture to say that what we have in the above paragraphs is coming mighty close to trodding under-foot the Son of God and treating the blood of the covenant by which they were sanctified as common.
Carolyn Comment by Carolyn on February 24, 2010 at 9:29pm
Just a note to say that Connie's reply to Bill has been deleted because she has here, and in other places, violated the good faith rules of this site by posting links to Mormon doctrine and teachings. This is not a site that supports leading others into the error of Mormonism, and out of respect for the founders of this site, we will include dialog that helps us focus more clearly on evangelical and historical Christianity.

The only reason for this page at all, is that there is quite a profusion of error being posted as though it were simple dialog about differences in faith and practise. Mormonism uses similar word that have far different meanings and sources than those who believe in Jesus Christ from our historical faith.

It is a deceptive practise to come here not to learn about Christianity but to post links to another religion. Therefore, those links have been deleted. I am not being mean, but truthful. Carolyn
Connie Comment by Connie on February 24, 2010 at 11:19pm
One day perhaps you will see and understand that we are all Christian.
Carolyn Comment by Carolyn on February 25, 2010 at 7:43am
We all do have differences, and the Lord is not requiring that we be perfect in ourselves, but there is no Mormon who seems willing to discuss the issues that fundamental Christian believers know about the nature and the kingdom of God. Mormonism is a controlled cult in which questions are not allowed.

Spiritual truths and principles work for those who believe in Jesus Christ in truth and for those who don't because they are what God has established. Mormons focus on giving, family relationships, and other principles will work for them even if they don't know the Lord in truth.

How much greater when one does come to know Him. If your Jesus is not the same Jesus as the real Jesus, and your God not the true God, then you will miss his perfect plan for you. In the Old Testament, people worshipped Baal who led them to sacrifice their children. They thought Baal was God and they received the nature of the god they followed right into evil.

The principle of grace is so absolutely necessary! If we follow a God who has requirements not based on the principle of grace and faith, then we will receive the nature of that god and be burdened in ways that the Lord did not intend. All the treasures of his glory in his kingdom of heaven come to earth, now, will not even be seen or known.

We worship the Lord in spirit and in truth. It is for that reason that we work, and discuss the truth by which we know him. John 4:23But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him. Seek the truth, because it is the truth that God will use to make you free. Free from the need to be worthy of the love of God. He has made us worthy in Christ.
Carolyn Comment by Carolyn on February 25, 2010 at 9:00pm
Connie, you posted another note, but I had to delete it because you once again included a link to an indoctrinating Mormon website. You know that this site is not for promoting your "perfect system".

When you can get real and get out of your doctrinal box, maybe we can talk. It's a great day... Carolyn
Carolyn Comment by Carolyn on February 26, 2010 at 6:23am
By the way, Connie, you continue to disregard and disrespect simplechurch.com by putting in links to the LDS site or your own site promoting LDS doctrines although you know that the founders of simplechurch have asked you not to do so. Almost every comment you write now has a forbidden link in it.

This spirit of rebellion may be hidden, but it has an effect that can be seen. This rebellion is not the love of Christ. This is the same spirit of rebellion that makes a man turn from the provision of the garden of Eden to eat of the one forbidden tree on the promise of becoming like God thru man's own action rather than accepting the work of God in having already made man "like God".

Am I being mean? Not really. If I can get you to start making dialog without the support of LDS doctrine, then you will begin to resist that rebellious spirit and begin to hear God yourself. The truth does set one free.
Connie Comment by Connie on February 26, 2010 at 1:38pm
I appreciate your openness and transparency, but why not allow it all to be shown? There are two ways of looking at everything. You have seen me as only adversarial and as trying to push my beliefs.

When someone asks a question and I feel inspired to research it as a topic, I'll first of all google it, then I'll usually wiki it and I will also search it on lds.com and research scripture references. I find that I am more engaged in gospel study when I am talking to people who don't see things the same way as I. Any links are the result of what I honestly consider at that moment, TREASURES, found on the Internet.

I was so excited when I discovered that article about adam ad eve on Meridian.com, that discussed many religion's views of the fall, and the history of their views, then compared them to ours.

Have you ever heard of momentum? I very easily get caught in it, and once I get going I just have to express it somehow. I love momentum whether I'm doing housework, yard work, or book work. sometimes I'll spend so much effort in working up to a point where momentum will kick in and do the work for me. I believe in rhythms and momentum. I believe it is possible to sync ourselves with nature and the universe, by forcing momentum.

What you see as rebellion and not the love of Christ, I see as the opposite. What you see as forbidden fruit/link, I see as living water and words of Christ. What you see as promoting LDS Doctrine, I see as teaching and adding a dimension to the discussion perhaps not thought of or conceived before by anyone.

Simple church.com is not a religion. It is for Christians who have abandoned their Christian church and are trying to establish it more near to the principles Jesus outlined when here.

In case you haven't heard, we are trying harder to blend. I could provide links to articles about Catholics and Mormons, Mormons praising other Christian religions, working together on moral issues, and if I did it would be because I would think you would like to read them. However, Carolyn, you have let me know in no uncertain terms that you don't want to read anything that comes from a mormon.

That which I wrote yesterday was meant only for you. I wanted you to see that I understood what you were saying to me, and the link I provided was an unresistable urge to prove a point, when you said, "that then you will miss his perfect plan for you", that I had a perfect plan, and was satisfied with it.

I wrote it as I was leaving, so didn't have time to check it over, so if I came across as rebellious, I truly apologize. I love you Carolyn and am sorry about whatever it is you're stressed over.
Tammie Comment by Tammie on February 28, 2010 at 9:39am
hmm... that analogy sounds familiar...
Carolyn Comment by Carolyn on February 28, 2010 at 1:25pm
Tammie, was it yours? Hmmmm...
Tammie Comment by Tammie on February 28, 2010 at 3:24pm
Now that you mention it, Caroline :) I vaguely remember writing something about a proselytizing Mormon in a main stream church or was it an evangelical Christian in a synagogue.

But the part about hitting the cheese cloth bulls eye in a ballpark...no, I don't even know what sport that is... I've seen bull riding in an arena but they didn't have cheese cloth targets on the bulls eyes and they weren't trying to hit them, just ride them... so that can't be it.

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